teddy_radiator | Now This Is A Campaign I Can Get Behind

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I'll admit I've been giving that a lot of thought since someone mentioned the Kama Sutra. As Stgulik said to me, "Twins, Basil, Twins!"

I did vote for Poppy because I was hoping he would receive some bedside care, but my vote didn't seem to count for much :(

Nope. The Snarry people don't like me very much today. I offend.

You don't offend. We just love Snarry!

Besides, I went and looked and Hermione won just fine for "H" in which she didn't even have Harry listed. So it's all fair that Potter gets his chance. Sorry, Parvati twins. Pomona Sprout could still get "S" though.

Edited 2016-04-01 03:59 (UTC)

Well, I expressed my opinion on someone else's post. Which is not cool, hence why I deleted it. That was wrong on my part, and I apologised for that. I love what Mywitch does; anything she does is super with me. My original message was addressed to her as a humours aside; I don't think anyone would seriously believe I would offer her the deed to my house to draw something I liked rather than something I didn't like. It was meant as a joke and it was taken in offense.

I try and get along with everyone. I abhor confrontation and arguing and negativity. But this is my post, and I don't have to censor my opinions here. There are ships I don't particularly like, Snarry and Snucious being two of them. I would go so far as to say I dislike them very much. And to that, I answer, So what? My opinion means nothing to anyone but me.

I don't expect anyone else to automatically like what I like, but I don't feel I'm being insulting when I say I don't like a particular thing, and Snarry, like SSHG, has a huge following. I'm threatening no one when I say I don't care for Snarry.

I never said that people who do are wrong, or that I look down on people who do, or think they should automatically change and be on my ship. It just means I don't like Snarry. I cannot help it when someone is offended by my opinion, especially when it is not directed at them.

This is supposed to be fun, and when people take personal offense because I don't agree with them or state an opinion that is in opposition to theirs, I can't stop them. But I won't apologise for liking or disliking something, and I don't expect anyone else to feel they must apologise for liking or disliking something else.

Loads of people don't like SSHG, but I don't get angry at them of feel personally insulted. Sure, I'd love the whole world to join me on the good ship SSHG, but the fact of the matter is that we all of us are different. It all seems so ludicrous, but I do get a bit put out when I get my head bitten off for just stating an opinion that someone else disagrees with. That's why I avoid all politics right now.

Aw, honey. ((hug))

I have canon friends, I have Snarry friends, I have HG/SS friends, I have Drarry friends and I have Dramione friends... and I DON'T MIX THEM EVER. For good reason.

Believe it or not, the biggest gap is with canon!lovers vs. canon!haters. Those arguments get bloody. Yikes!

But the Percy/Giant Squid shippers are the most tolerant.

But the Percy/Giant Squid shippers are the most tolerant.

You are the best, funniest, wickedest person. I love you, you know that? ♥ ♥ ♥

And a huge liar at times!! Love you back!

But the Percy/Giant Squid shippers are the most tolerant.

LOL! hahahahahaha! that's totally true!

ah, I see. I didn't see your original comment, so I didn't know how that went. And humor is really awkward at times over the Interwebs, so I can understand how that becomes misconstrued by others. Also, ship wars. Bleh. And politics. Total Bleh. I do get you.

And people are allowed their likes and dislikes, I agree with you on that, and there's no possible argument to be had based simply on feels (it just dissolves into a yelling match or angry foot stomping). And I do understand you don't like Snarry (almost as much as the H/D people don't like Snarry) just the same as I can't stand Harry/Ginny. But --- to each his own.

Be happy, though. I just signed up for SSHG fest. ;)

I can't stand Harry/Ginny. But --- to each his own. I fell ya. I'm the same way with Hermione/Ron. What's THAT all about? LOL

I'm thrilled to bits you signed up for SSHG fest - I loved your story His Sacrificed Soul (based on my prompt - gee, Ted, ego much?). So much, in fact, I'm reading it for podfest. I don't think that's a secret. if it is, don't tell anyone I told you.

Yeah, I can't stand Ron/Hermione either. I think they bring out the worst in each other, and I can't see a marriage lasting between them. I know JKR was building that up the whole time, and the end was supposed to be all sweet and loving, but I was cringing the whole way. (I was trying to think up a non-canon het pairing that I couldn't stomach, but I kept coming up blank b/c I'm pairings whore and will read anything --- Okay okay ... hmmm ... Minerva/Argus ... no, no I could possibly see that ... ... Harry/Narcissa ... shoot that works too ... ... Ron/Bellatrix? well not in a lovey-dovey sort of way, but in a dark!fic, sure! ... crap. Still can't do it.)

Well, if it was a secret, it's not anymore! But, yes, I did know, since I'm running podfic fest. ;)

Okay okay ... hmmm ... Minerva/Argus ... no, no I could possibly see that ... ..

I read the most hilarious Mrs. Norris and Minerva McG as a cat one shot. Filch was peeping, goddamnit it was awesome.

Are you the one who got wrist-slapped, Teddy? What hypocrisy considering the wrist-slapper's very vocal and fervent distaste for het, Ginny, D/s, etc. and so on.

Yep, I was.

TheHubs™ and I have been talking about this alot today. When did disagreeing with someone become a personal insult? If I say I hate strawberries, it's not the same as saying, I think you're stupid because you DO like strawberries.

And I felt like I was made into the bad guy for it, which I don't agree with. Ah, well, this happens sometimes. But here on my own post, I will say what I like and if folks don't agree, that's just the way it is. My opinion is no more long-reaching than the breath it takes to say it, but yeah, it gets a bit tiresome when it seems okay for some to state their opinion then grow cross when yours doesn't agree. I dunno. It just seems a little bit much to me.

I will literally read anything, so while Snarry is not my particular catnip, I've enjoyed enough of it to feel good about Harry winning this thang. (They are busy humping away on my computer screen even as I type this, lol.) (sorry, I probably just squicked you out, Ted!) *chuckle*

*giggles* I'm with you. My OTP is SSGW, but I'll still read (and write) just about any pairing. Because, well ... hmmm, how to say this without sounding like a total perv ... smut is fabulous no matter the delivery ;)

It's just Severus for me. Just chuck him with anyone if it's in a drawing - I just want a perve, all right? 😂😂😂 I'm picky with what I'll read but art is another thing. Om nom nom.

Me too - in a way. I'll read anything where SS is getting well laid and having a snarky good time. I don't really mind who he's with, if he's happy. 💛🌟🦄🌟💛

I can't be that selfless. I mostly read sshg because I can fool myself and pretend that I am Hermione. And I wonder why I like PWPs... 💃🏻

Oh ... but it's so fun to be selfless *nods* It's also fun to read slash, if Severus is very very happy to be on the giving or receiving end ;)

(I probably mostly write SSGW because I pretend I'm Ginny ... *sighs* Once upon I time I was so fiesty. Gods above, please provide me a snarky, crooked nosed man to play with ... )

Hey, it's all good. My beef was not so much who won or who lost. I was just a bit put out at being jumped on for stating what was obviously a jokey opinion on something, then being made to look/feel like the bad guy about it. From now on, I think I'll keep my opinions to myself. Sad day, though. This was the last bastion of being able to speak truthfully without those in disagreement getting out the torches and pitchforks.

I want to say don't listen to that sort of thing, but I stew on such things as well. It's not nice to be on the receiving end of bluntness. It frustrates me that you were.

Well, everything is a life lesson, and this was one of those lessons I had to learn the hard way. I do have a consolation prize, though. DMuse gave me a really fun bit of inspiration for a threeway between Severus and the Patils, so I'm happily playing away in the sandbox.

People get protective of their ships. As someone who's been on the receiving end of ship bashing more than I'd like to think at one time (and also have been where you are right now because of a somewhat similar misunderstanding), it's very easy for me to see both sides and I know how easy it is to get wound up about it. It's very easy to get defensive about something that you love and something you put time/effort/heart into. (I think I'm on a mission to see how many times I can use "easy" in a block of text.) No one person's opinion matters more than any others of course, you're right about that, same with saying whatever you like in your own personal space. But part of fandom is often being insanely passionate about something. Feelings run high, people get angry, and it snowballs. I think you know that I understand that all too well, boo. You've seen me get defensive about my little ship. Sometimes to the point of my being chagrined once I cooled off.

I gotta say, I'm incredibly relieved that I ship absolutely nothing with any sort of conviction with my new fandom. Those crazily passionate feelings about our imaginary friends in their imaginary relationships can be fun but man, there's a lot of times when it's most decidedly not. I love it, but it can be emotionally draining too.

Just be excellent to each other. That's all. (You know it's early when I'm quoting Bill and Ted.) *hugs* Love you.

Edited 2016-04-01 12:20 (UTC)

I totally understand that. Again, we all have opinions, and ideas can be changed. I mean, when I first started in the fandom, I refused to read slash of any kind, full stop. It's still not my go to, but I found your art, and learned to love your ship because of it. I found atdelphi's Severus/Filch fic, and appreciated the dynamic between these two rough-and-ready Northerners. I've written Severus/Lupin slash because it's such a favourite of stgulik's, and I love making her happy.

But in the original post in question, I was jumped on for stating an opinion, not making an insult, and I'm a little ticked off for somehow being the bad guy in this scenario. If I can no longer express my own opinion on something without getting bashed for it here of all places, I think I'd better sign-off of the grid.

Edited 2016-04-01 14:09 (UTC)

Trust me, I totally understand since I have been in the same position of being jumped on. It's not a good experience. I really hope you're not taking what I say as jumping on you or bashing you. That really is not my intention at all since you know I consider you a close friend.

All I was saying is I know a lot of people's emotions run very high around ships. It's the case in every fandom I've seen so far (And hey, there are fandoms where people try to do actual RL damage to each other over ships. I've never seen that in HP thank goodness!) and even innocuous things that are harmless can be perceived as bashing or what have you when the emotional component comes into play. That's all I was saying.

At the end of the day, you're not the bad guy in any sense and I truly hate that this happened because I want you to feel comfortable here and confident in your own feelings. The dirty hippie in me also really wants us all to get along and be friends and understand that sometimes there are misunderstandings that are really just that and no one means anyone any harm. It happens. We're a diverse bunch.

*Sigh* My inarticulate ways get the better of me again and if I said something to hurt you, someone I care about very much, I am truly sorry. I was just offering the view of someone who's sat on both sides of this kind of thing (and overreacted in both situations, mea culpa.) and knows how shitty it can be.

It'll pass, it was a very minor thing and I'm only sorry anyone felt upset, silenced or hurt by it since it is such a fun project and you are one of my best friends here.

*hugs* Again, sorry if I put my foot in my mouth.

ETA: Why the need to censor yourself on your own journal? There's absolutely no need for that.

Edited 2016-04-01 14:20 (UTC)

Babe, no way have you said anything to hurt me. You are absolutely right on this, and I agree 100%

This is in reference to an earlier comment I made on someone else's post, and the reaction of someone else (who I wasn't talking to/about with regards to my comment, but that's a whole other thing) to my comment. You know you and I are copacetic babe.

You are one of the reasons I still want to enjoy LJ. And your friendship is as dear to me as any on earth, and please believe me, nothing you have said here is anything but love to me.

As you so rightly said, it'll pass. We're all grown ups here, and by tomorrow it'll be over and forgotten. And no, I will not allow anyone to censor my thoughts/opinions/colour choices, etc on my own journal. I just have to remember to keep my mouth shut on other people's in future.

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